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To michaelchild michaelchild@aol.com

CC manstonairport manstonairport@pins.gsi.gov.uk

Thank you for your email.

RiverOak Strategic Partners has resubmitted its application to the Planning Inspectorate and the application documents are currently with them for review. The documents will be published on the PINs website if the application is accepted.

RiverOak Strategic Partners

Manston Airport consultation team

From: michaelchild@aol.com [mailto:michaelchild@aol.com]

Sent: 18 July 2018 11:42

To: manston@communityrelations.co.uk

Cc: manstonairport@pins.gsi.gov.uk

Subject: Re: Manston DCO

Hi Sam I am having email server issues so you may get this email more than once

You seem to be saying that the "information will be made publically available in the application documents as part of our resubmission." is something that isn't now going to happen, but that the application had been resubmitted, is that the case?

I think an important issue here is that the DCO process is supposed to be front loaded with a major factor being public engagement.

Up until the previous submissions withdrawal I and I think the others engaged in the consultation process had assumed the DCO application was for an airfreight hub in the 10,000 ATM pa ballpark.

As the meeting notes have appeared on the pins website it would seem that a much larger airfreight hub is visualised with as many as 83,222 ATMs PA.

Obviously if this is the case then there is a serious issue with the public engagement, But the fundamental problem is that I don't think any of the interested parties have any idea what RSP/RiverOak actually intend.

My understanding is that the whole idea of a DCO is that the applicant engages with those affected and then presents something agreed and viable to pins.

So either aspects of the project have changed significantly in which case RSP would need to tell me and the other interested parties, of there have been no significant changes, could you kindly explain which has happened?

Best regards Michael

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From: manston <manston@communityrelations.co.uk>

To: michaelchild <michaelchild@aol.com>

CC: manstonairport <manstonairport@pins.gsi.gov.uk>

Sent: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:02

Subject: RE: Manston DCO

Thank you for your email.

On Monday, RiverOak Strategic Partners re-submitted its DCO application to the Planning Inspectorate. The application documents will be made publically available to view if the application is accepted. Please keep an eye on the project website for further updates on the application status.

RiverOak Strategic Partners

Manston Airport consultation team

From: michaelchild@aol.com [mailto:michaelchild@aol.com]

Sent: 16 July 2018 19:06

To: manston@communityrelations.co.uk

Cc: manstonairport@pins.gsi.gov.uk

Subject: Re: Manston DCO

The application appears to have been submitted but I can't find the information that you said would be made publically avaiable. "information will be made publically available in the application documents as part of our resubmission."

Can you kindly point me in the right direction?

Best regards Michael

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From: manston <manston@communityrelations.co.uk>

To: michaelchild <michaelchild@aol.com>

CC: manstonconsultation <manstonconsultation@bdb-law.co.uk>

Sent: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:36

Subject: RE: Manston DCO

Thank you for your email.

RiverOak Strategic Partners recently held a meeting with the Planning Inspectorate to clarify this, and more information will be made publically available in the application documents as part of our resubmission.

RiverOak Strategic Partners

Manston Airport consultation team

From: michaelchild@aol.com [mailto:michaelchild@aol.com]

Sent: 25 June 2018 15:40

To: manston@communityrelations.co.uk; manstonconsultation@bdb-law.co.uk

Subject: Fwd: Manston DCO

Can you give me an update on the situation with the DCO?

I asked pins various questions about the meeting note on their website and the told me to ask you instead. my main question was:-

“The largest figure mentioned in the advice note is 83,222 ATMs, is this meant to be an annual figure? If it is it would mean 228 ATMs a day and wouldn’t seem viable given the infrastructure, history or the environmental implications?”

and pins answer was:-

83,222 ATMs is an annual figure. Please contact the Applicant directly for more information on matters relating to the design and operational capability of its Proposed Development. The Planning Inspectorate cannot prejudge what any future resubmission may comprise.

The rest are below (at the bottom) and I would appreciate your answers to what you can.

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From: Manston Airport <ManstonAirport@pins.gsi.gov.uk>

To: michaelchild <michaelchild@aol.com>

Sent: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 17:22

Subject: RE: Manston DCO

Thank you for your email.

“Now the application has been withdrawn does this mean that it should be seen as at the pre application stage again?”

If an application is withdrawn at the Acceptance stage, and the Applicant clearly states its intention to resubmit at some time in the future, the project stage is moved back to ‘Pre-application’. This is indicated on the project status bar located on the top right of the Manston Airport project webpage.

“If so does this mean that as a person who would be affected by the development I should be maintaining a dialogue with both pins and with the applicant, or should I view the application as over until such time as the applicant starts the application again with a revised PEIR and consultation?”

Until an application is resubmitted, the Applicant should be your first point of contact. It will be for the Applicant to take a view about whether any further consultation and/ or revised documentation will be required before the application is resubmitted.

“Did pins receive an application fee as part of the application process that stopped just before the deadline?”

The Acceptance fee (£6,939) was paid by the Applicant, and is non-refundable. Any resubmitted application will be a new application for the purposes of the Regulations, and will attract a second Acceptance fee.

“With the existing freight capabilities of the airport I am assuming that a baseline of the previous CAA licence which I think was in 23,000 ATMs ballpark would be a significant factor, could you please confirm that this figure is approximately right?”

The Planning Inspectorate does not hold this information. Please contact the former licence holder.

Manston Airport Case Team

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From: michaelchild@aol.com [mailto:michaelchild@aol.com]

Sent: 08 June 2018 13:03

Subject: Manston DCO

Hi Manston DCO team at pins

Could you kindly clarify the situation with some aspects of the RSP DCO for me, or failing that tell me who I should be asking?

Now the application has been withdrawn does this mean that it should be seen as at the pre application stage again?

If so does this mean that as a person who would be affected by the development I should be maintaining a diaogue with both pins and with the applicant, or should I view the application as over until such time as the applicant starts the application again with a revised PEIR and consultation?

Did pins receive an application fee as part of the application process that stopped just before the deadline?

I have read the pins advice note Meeting Update TR020002 and although I would doubt I properly understood it all and I am having considerable difficulty the ATM figures in it.

My understanding both from the application as described on the pins website “The upgrade and reopening of Manston Airport primarily as a cargo airport, with some passenger services, with a capacity of at least 12,000 air cargo movements per year.” and from attending the three RSP consultations, communicating with the applicant and with pins by email I formed the impression that is that something in the 12,000 ATMs ball park is what the project intended and not an expansion of the previous capacity. Am I mistaken in this assumption?

The largest figure mentioned in the advice note is 83,222 ATMs, is this meant to be an annual figure? If it is it would mean 228 ATMs a day and wouldn’t seem viable given the infrastructure, history or the environmental implications.

I can see that pins main concern at this point would be the legal aspects of acceptance, but having the general impression of around 12,000 ATMs, which seems to be the sort of ballpark area that everyone I have discussed the project with assumed up until now. I am a bit concerned that the consultation process thus far was less informative than I had assumed.

There is a sense in all of this that while pins can’t respond to questions about the project, you may consider commenting about what the project actually is. In terms of is it an intersection joining 2 major roads or 16?

There is also a sense in which pins seem to be instead of saying the project isn’t NSIP compliant, possibly by a factor of 8 times the project size, instead of rejecting the project pins appear to be trying unreasonably hard to help the applicant above and beyond the interested and affected parties.

With the existing freight capabilities of the airport I am assuming that a baseline of the previous CAA licence which I think was in 23,000 ATMs ballpark would be a significant factor, could you please confirm that this figure is approximately right?

Please appreciate in this instance I am not so much trying to ask pins if the figures arranged in some way make the project a NSIP but to gather the information to enable me to ask either pins or the applicant the right questions. One of which is is the project still seen as ongoing and front loaded?

Best regards Michael

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