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Shaping our Future - Core Strategy
Shaping our Future - Core Strategy
Preferred Options Consultation
Ends on: 18 Jan 2010
DRAFT RESPONSE
Submitted by Eastcliff Residents Association on 15 Dec 2009
16:19
The Role and Identity of Thanet's Towns and
Villages - Options A1-A4
Options A1-A4: Do you agree with the Preferred Options?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
A1-A4 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
The Level of Housing Growth - Options B1-B3
Options B1-B3: Do you agree with the Preferred Options?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
B1-B3 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ Option B1 needs to be tweaked to enable TDC to
develop a strategy to encourage appropriate
redevelopment of existing deteriorated housing stock in
the Coastal towns . Redevelopment needs to be given
priority over building new housing stock . ]
View Response
The Development Pattern - Options C1-C3
Options C1-C3: Do you agree with the Preferred Options?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
C1-C3 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ Options selected need to give priority to
redevelopment of existing deteriorated housing stock ]
Providing for Economic Prosperity - Options
D1-D9
Options D1-D9: Do you agree with the Preferred Options?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
D1-D9 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ 1) Expansion of Manston has the potential to bring
great benefits to Thanet - but will undoubtedly have a
blighting effect on Ramsgate. The core strategy plan
doesn't recognise that the quality of living of 33 % of
Thanet's residents and the values of their homes could
be seriously affected by insensitive airport expansion.
Obviously ERA does not want to see Ramsgate blighted
by airport operations - and we believe development of
the airport should only proceed if the quality life in
Ramsgate is preserved.
The policy on developing the airport needs to explicitly
recognise that any development is likely to have a
blighting effect on Ramsgate and that the effect on
Ramsgate must be taken into account when deciding
whether to proceed.
2) The loss suffered by Ramsgate will be significantly
more than the drop in current property values
The new high speed rail connection, if combined with
intelligent strategy set in place by the Ramsgate Town
Council, give Ramsgate the potential for substantial
regeneration and for large growth in property values.
The true cost of insensitive expansion of the airport
includes sacrificing that potential.
3) Ramsgate property owners should receive full
compensation from TDC or the airport operator for the
millions of pounds the town will miss out on if TDC puts
the needs of Thanet as a whole ahead of , and to the
detriment of , Ramsgate.
4) The plan does not consider what should be done if
the airport expansion doesn't actually happen. The plan
acknowledges that the Eurokent business park concept
has not produced the desired result - but this plan does
not consider that, for commercial reasons, the airport
might also fail . There is no Plan B. TDC needs to devise
a plan B, and incorporate it into the core strategy . ]
The Future Role of Westwood - Options E1-E7
Options E1-E7: Do you agree with the Preferred Options?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
E1-E7 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ 1) Whilst ERA supports the eventual expansion of
Westwood, this should not be done if the town centre of
Ramsgate, or the town centres of the other Coastal
towns, suffer. We want Ramsgate town centre to
develop alongside West wood and do not desire further
shop closures and movement of town centre outlets to
Westwood Cross.
To enable the Coastal towns to recover we recommend
a 10 year moratorium on further expansion of
Westwood.
2) Allowing office based businesses into Westwood is a
serious error of judgement. This will suck those
businesses out of the coastal towns, in turn leading to
further decay in those towns. Allowing the cinemas and
casinos in Westwood has had a serious effect on the
entertainment business in the coastal towns, and
allowing professional services to relocate to Westwood
will, in the same way, suck the office based businesses
out of those towns.
3) Allowing significant amounts of new housing at
Westwood is likely to reduce the chances of existing
housing stock in Margate and Ramsgate being
refurbished. There are many fine buildings in both
towns that would make wonderful family homes, and
converting them back to such homes would provide a
major impetus to the regeneration of those towns, and
would also be desirable activity from an environmental
point of view. We recommend a block on residential
development at Westwood for at least 10 years to allow
the regeneration of the housing stock in the costal
towns. ]
The Coastal Town Centres - Options F1-F4
Options F1-F4: Do you agree with the Preferred Options?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
F1-F4 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ Ramsgate needs to developed aswell. The phraseology
should be changed to:
The future of Margate and Ramsgate could be shaped
through......... ]
Policy DCS1
Do you agree with Policy DCS1?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS1 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ Manston Airport : As noted in our answers to the
policies in D1 to D9
1. The policy on developing the airport needs to
explicitly recognise that any development is likely to
have a blighting effect on Ramsgate and that the effect
on Ramsgate must be taken into account when deciding
whether to proceed.
2. The policy should recognise that the loss suffered by
Ramsgate will be significantly more than the drop in
current property values.
3. The policy should require that Ramsgate property
owners receive full compensation from TDC or the
airport operator for the millions of pounds the town will
miss out on if TDC puts the needs of Thanet as a whole
ahead of, and to the detriment of, Ramsgate. The
compensation paid must cover the drop in current
property values, and also the loss from being unable to
regenerate the town to its full potential.
In addition:
4) The policy on the airport should explicitly require
independently monitored measures to be put in place to
manage safety issues ,surface transport and
environmental impact.
Westwood:
To Para 4 of the proposed policy add:
" as a sustainable residential and business community ,
but that such allocation will only proceed once the
three coastal town centres have had a number of years
to recover from their present degeneration ."
Revitalisation of Ramsgate and Broadstairs.
While Margate has slid back more than the other towns,
the needs of Ramsgate and Broadstairs cannot be
overlooked. Therefore policy should be amended as
below:
To Para 5 add:
"….physical revitalisation of Margate and Cliftonville
West, together with the protection and regeneration of
the coastal towns of
Ramsgate and Broadstairs." ] ]
Policy DCS2
Do you agree with Policy DCS2?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS2 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS3
Do you agree with Policy DCS3?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS3 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ As noted in our answers to the policies in D1 to D9:
1) Manston Airport should only be developed in ways
that do not blight Ramsgate - or if development is to
proceed despite the quality of life in Ramsgate being
affected , and/or Ramsgate's potential to develop being
reduced , full compensation must be paid to those
affected. Policy DCS3 should reflect this .
2) This policy should address what should happen to
land which has been allocated for airport use if the
airport fails to expand as envisaged ( ie provide a Plan
B) ]
Policy DCS4
Do you agree with Policy DCS4?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS4 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS5
Do you agree with Policy DCS5?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS5 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS6
Do you agree with Policy DCS6?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS6 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS7
Do you agree with Policy DCS7?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS7 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS8
Do you agree with Policy DCS8?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS8 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ As noted in our answers to the policies in D1 to D9
1)Whilst ERA supports the eventual expansion of
Westwood, this should not be done if the town centre of
Ramsgate, or the town centres of the other Coastal
towns, suffer. We want Ramsgate town centre to
develop alongside West wood and do not
desire further shop closures and movement of town
centre outlets to Westwood Cross.
To enable the Coastal towns to recover we recommend
a 10 year moratorium on further expansion of
Westwood.
2) Allowing office based businesses into Westwood is a
serious error of judgement. This will suck those
businesses out of the coastal towns, in turn leading to
further decay in those towns. Allowing the cinemas and
casinos in Westwood has had a serious effect on the
entertainment business in the coastal towns, and
allowing professional services to relocate to Westwood
will, in the same way, suck the office based businesses
out of those towns. ]
Policy DCS9
Do you agree with Policy DCS9?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS9 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS10
Do you agree with Policy DCS10?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS10 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS11
Do you agree with Policy DCS11?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS11 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ As noted in our answers to the policies in D1 to D9
Allowing significant amounts of new housing at
Westwood or other greenfield sites in Thanet is likely to
reduce the chances of existing housing stock in Margate
and Ramsgate being refurbished. There are many fine
buildings in both towns that would make wonderful
family homes, and converting them back to such homes
would provide a major impetus to the regeneration of
those towns, and would also be desirable activity from
an environmental point of view. We recommend a block
on residential development at Westwood and other
greenfield sites for at least 10 years to allow the
regeneration of the housing stock in the costal towns. ]
Policy DCS12
Do you agree with Policy DCS12?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS12 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ See notes in section DCS11 ]
Policy DCS13
Do you agree with Policy DCS13?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS13 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ We are opposed to the relocation of Thanet Tech
Collection because of the detrimental effect to
Broadstairs. ]
Policy DCS14
Do you agree with Policy DCS14?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS14 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS15
Do you agree with Policy DCS15?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS15 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS16
Do you agree with Policy DCS16?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS16 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS17
Do you agree with Policy DCS17?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS17 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ 1. We feel Land west of the Harbour is not suitable for
residential development.
2. Agreed
3. Agreed ]
Policy DCS18
Do you agree with Policy DCS18?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS18 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS19
Do you agree with Policy DCS19?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS19 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ Existing conservation areas should be safeguarded. ]
Policy DCS20
Do you agree with Policy DCS20?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS20 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS21
Do you agree with Policy DCS21?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS21 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ What are the aims of the policy? ]
Policy DCS22
Do you agree with Policy DCS22?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS22 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS23
Do you agree with Policy DCS23?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS23 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS24
Do you agree with Policy DCS24?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS24 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS25
Do you agree with Policy DCS25?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS25 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS26
Do you agree with Policy DCS26?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
DCS26 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ There are numerous run down and empty homes in
Ramsgate. Developers should be encouraged to
renovate and refurbish these. New build homes should
be secondary to this. ]
Policy DCS27
Do you agree with Policy DCS27?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS27 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS28
Do you agree with Policy DCS28?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS28 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS29
Do you agree with Policy DCS29?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS29 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS30
Do you agree with Policy DCS30?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS30 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS31
Do you agree with Policy DCS31?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS31 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS32
Do you agree with Policy DCS32?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS32 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
Policy DCS33
Do you agree with Policy DCS33?
Yes [ Selected ]
No [ ]
DCS33 Answers
If you disagree, what alternatives are you proposing?
[ ]
CS1
Do you think the Core Strategy is founded on a robust and
credible evidence base?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
CS2
Do you think the Core Strategy is the most appropriate
strategy when considered against the reasonable alternatives?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
CS3
Do you think the Core Strategy is deliverable?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
CS4
Do you think the Core Strategy is flexible?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
CS5
Do you think the Core Strategy is able to be monitored?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
CS6
Do you think the Core Strategy is consistent with national
policy?
Yes [ ]
No [ Selected ]
CS7
If you answered 'no' to any of the previous questions, please
tell us why.
[ We are not in a position to give a yes/no answer to
these questions therefore we have said no to all of
them. It is quite possible that some of the above are a
'yes' answer but, as there are areas within the Core
Startegy with which we disagree, we have to say no to
them all. ]
CS8
Do you think there are any other matters which the Core
Strategy should contain?
[ ]